In Matthew 23 (Luke 13), Jesus is in the Temple, reaming out the Sanhedrin and Pharisees for their hypocrisy, calling them every pejorative in the Thesaurus. He ends by saying this in Matthew 23:37-38,
“O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those sent to her, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were unwilling! Look, your house (Temple) is left to you desolate.”
The temple would’ve clearly still been standing in Matthew 23, yet, here Jesus is telling them to behold their ‘desolate temple’. When you dig deeper, you find out that much of what was written about Jesus was actually referring to Roman General Titus who was sent by his FATHER (Emperor Vespasian) to besiege Jerusalem and the Temple. Titus being the son, sent by the Father is another allusion to Jesus and his ‘father in heaven’.
And in Matthew 24, the very first thing Jesus tells his disciples is that the temple would not have one stone standing upon another (it would be destroyed). There was a deceptive Literary Tactic (already being used by authors, poets, tragedians, etc. long before Christianity came on the scene) called “VATICINIUM EX EVENTU” or “POST-EVENTUM” which is where they wrote prophecies about events that had already occurred, as if they were being prophesied about BEFOREHAND. This is clearly what was going on here with the destruction of the Temple. They made it seem as if Jesus was prophesying about the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple before it happened, when really, it was written after the Roman Siege on Jerusalem (66-73AD).
Also, there was another literary tactic known as “Euhemerism” which posits that myths were based on real historical personages or events that were then exaggerated, embellished and amplified in their re-telling. In a nutshell, it was real people and/or events that were then wrapped in mythology. That scene in Matthew 23, where Jesus is telling them how much he wished to gather them like chicks under a hens wings, but they were unwilling and then to behold their temple (house) being desolate, etc.. is a euhemeristic tactic, speaking of Titus (being cloaked as Jesus in the New Testament), who goes on a long spiel about how benevolent the Romans had been to the Jews, yet the Jews were unwilling to cooperate with the Romans and even fought against them. It was Titus beholding the ‘desolation’ of the Temple.
As a matter of fact, Roman General Titus (and his father Vespasian) were cloaked as Jesus many times, and in other instances, Josephus is cloaked as the Apostle Paul (as well as other writers in the NT). SEE BELOW :
ROMAN GENERAL TITUS CLOAKED AS JESUS IN THE NEW TESTAMENT
Matthew 23:37-38 Jesus says, “Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were not willing. Look, your house is left to you desolate.” (Notice : Jesus says their house (Jewish Temple) had been left desolate even though it was still supposedly standing when Jesus was alive. It’s supposed to be a ‘hint’ of who is really speaking here, not Jesus, but Titus in Josephus ‘Wars’ CLOAKED as Jesus in the Bible, as it was Titus standing there beholding the city and Jewish Temple completely destroyed in 70AD)
COMPARE TO TITUS SPEAKING BELOW (Josephus ‘Wars’ 6.6.2 and 6.6.3)
“I then came to this city [Jerusalem], as unwillingly sent by my father [Vespasian] and received melancholy injunctions from him. When I heard that the people were disposed to peace, I rejoiced at it. I exhorted you to leave off these proceedings before I began this war. I spared you, even when you had fought against me a great while. I gave my right hand, as security to the deserters. I observed what I had promised faithfully. When they fled to me, I had compassion on many of those I had taken captive. I tortured those that were eager for war, in order to restrain them. It was unwillingly that I brought my engines of war against your walls. I always prohibited my soldiers when they were set upon your slaughter, from their severity against you. After every victory I persuaded you to peace: as though I had been my self conquered. When I came near your temple, I again departed from the laws of war, and exhorted you to spare your own sanctuary, and to preserve your holy house to yourselves.
I allowed you a quiet exit out of it: and security for your preservation. Nay, if you had a mind, I gave you leave to fight in another place. Yet have you still despised every one of my proposals: and have set fire to your holy house with your own hands. And now, vile wretches, do you desire to treat with me by word of mouth? To what purpose is it that you would save such an holy house as this was, which is now destroyed? What preservation can you now desire, after the destruction of your temple? Yet do you stand still at this very time in your armour. Nor can you bring yourselves so much as to pretend to be supplicants, even in this your utmost extremity. O miserable creatures! what is it you depend on? Are not your people dead? Is not your holy house gone? Is not your city in my power? And are not your own very lives in my hands? And do you still deem it a part of valour to die?
However, I will not imitate your madness. If you throw down your arms, and deliver up your bodies to me, I grant you your lives. And I will act like a mild master of a family: what cannot be healed shall be punished: and the rest I will preserve for my own use. To that offer of Titus’s they made this reply: that,
“They could not accept of it, because they had sworn never to do so. But they desired they might have leave to go through the wall that had been made about them, with their wives, and children. For that they would go into the desert, and leave the city to him.”
At this Titus had great indignation: that when they were in the case of men already taken captives, they should pretend to make their own terms with him, as if they had been conquerors. So he ordered this proclamation to be made to them: that,
“They should no more come out to him as deserters, nor hope for any farther security. For that he would henceforth spare no body: but fight them with his whole army: and that they must save themselves as well as they could. For that he would from henceforth treat them according to the laws of war.” So he gave orders to the soldiers both to burn, and to plunder the city. Who did nothing indeed that day: but on the next day they set fire to the repository of the archives, to Acra, to the council house, and to the place called Ophlas: at which time the fire proceeded as far as the palace of queen Helena, which was in the middle of Acra. The lanes also were burnt down; as were also those houses that were full of the dead bodies of such as were destroyed by famine.”
(Josephus ‘Wars’ 6.6.2 and 6.6.3 compared to Matthew 23:37-38)
Clearly, Matthew 23:37-38 about Jesus’s plea to the Jews about how benevolent and eager he (and his father in heaven) was to care and protect them like a mother hen over her chicks, was Euhemerism being employed here by the author of Matthew, about Titus extending his hand of ‘grace’ to the Jews and wishing to spare they and their city and their temple. Yet they fought and destroyed / murdered many of the Roman soldiers (just as Jesus says there that Jerusalem had destroyed / murdered all the prophets that had been sent to them). They were taking real events from the Roman Jewish War and wrapping them in MYTHOLOGY.
There are other instances of Euhemerism which I’m going to show you below. Roman General Titus (and his father Vespasian) were cloaked as Jesus and in other instances, Jewish Historian Josephus (37-100 AD) is cloaked as the Apostle Paul (as well as other writers in the NT). SEE THOSE BELOW:
JOSEPHUS (JEWISH HISTORIAN ; 37-100AD) CLOAKED AS APOSTLE PAUL AND ROMAN GENERAL (LATER EMPEROR) TITUS CLOAKED AS JESUS
During the Roman-Jewish War (66-73AD) Josephus pleads with the Jews (with weeping for his people the Jews, just like Paul wrote his letters with tears to the churches – 2 Cor 12:4), Josephus ends his long spiel in ‘Wars 5.9.4’ by saying, “…take my own blood, as a reward, if it may but procure your preservation. For I am ready to die; in case you [Jews] will but return to a sound mind after my death.”
COMPARE WHAT JOSEPHUS SAID ABOVE TO WHAT PAUL SAID BELOW :
Apostle Paul said in Romans 9:3, “…for I wish that I myself were cursed and cut off from Christ for the sake of my people, those of my own race [Jews],”. P.S. It should also be noted that Paul was supposedly born in Rome, yet he is a Jew, making him a Jew and also a Roman citizen, which seems to be a cloaked reference to Josephus, who was a Jew and defected to Rome during the war, becoming a Roman citizen.
JESUS AND ROMAN GENERAL TITUS = THE TWO HOUDINI NINJAS
Many places in the gospels, the Sanhedrin is trying to corner Jesus and kill him, yet time and time again he walks through the midst of them somehow like a ninja (Luke 4:29-30 ; also see John 7:30 ; John 8:59 ; John 10:39).
COMPARE BELOW :
Josephus (Jewish Historian) wrote about Roman General Titus during the Roman Jewish war of 66-73AD below in ‘Wars 5.2.2’ :
“Now so long as he rode along the straight road which led to the wall of the city, no body appeared out of the gates. But when he went out of that road, and declined towards the tower Psephinos and led the band of horsemen obliquely; an immense number of the Jews leaped out suddenly… They intercepted Titus also, with a few others…, and to return back to his own men he saw it was also impossible; by reason of the multitude of the enemies [Jews] that lay between them. So he [Titus] perceived that his preservation must be wholly owing to his own courage, and turned his horse about, and cried out aloud to those that were about him to follow him; and ran with violence into the midst of his enemies; in order to force his way through them to his own men…
And hence we may principally learn that both the success of wars, and the dangers that kings are in, are under the providence of God. For while such a number of darts were thrown at Titus, when he had neither his head-piece on, nor his breast-plate: (for, as I told you, he went out not to fight, but to view the city:) none of the darts touched his body, but went aside without hurting him. As if all of them missed him on purpose; and only made a noise as they passed by him. So he diverted those perpetually with his sword that came on his side, and overturned many of those that directly met him; and made his horse ride over those that were overthrown.”
JOSEPHUS’S WRITINGS CLOAKED IN JAMES AND 1ST JOHN
James 5:16 and 1 John 1:9 say that if you confess your sins you will be healed and forgiven.
COMPARE TO JOSEPHUS ‘WARS 5.9.4’ BELOW (JOSEPHUS SPEAKING)
“However, there is a place left for your preservation, if you be willing to accept of it: and God is easily reconciled to those that confess their faults, and repent of them.”
JOSEPHUS CLOAKED AS APOSTLE PAUL
Paul says in 1 Corinthians 5:1-2 that there was a type of sin reported among them not even reported among the gentiles and that they are proud of this instead of feeling shame and mourning.
COMPARE TO JOSEPHUS ‘WARS 5.9.4’ BELOW
“For you shew your transgressions after a pompous manner; and contend one with another which of you shall be more wicked than another: and you make a publick demonstration of your injustice; as if it were virtue.”
HERE’S ONE WITH PLATO (380BC)
Excerpt from Plato’s Dialogue known as ‘Phaedo’ (c. 380BC) says :
“Whence come wars, and fightings, and factions? Whence but from the body and the lusts of the body? Wars are occasioned by the love of money, and money has to be acquired for the sake and in the service of the body.”
COMPARE TO :
James 4:1-2 “From whence come wars and fightings among you? come they not hence, even of your lusts that war in your members? Ye lust, and have not: ye kill, and desire to have, and cannot obtain.”
Tiberius Gracchus (150BC; Roman Politician) said this : “The wild beasts that roam over Italy have their dens and holes to lurk in, but the men who fight and die for our country enjoy the common air and light and nothing else. It is their lot to wander with their wives and children, houseless and homeless, over the face of the earth….”
COMPARE BELOW :
Matthew 8:20 Jesus replied, “Foxes have dens and birds have nests, but the Son of Man has no place to lay his head.”
*CRUCIFIXION OF 3 MEN WITH ONE RECOVERING*
We all know the crucifixion narrative of Jesus in the middle with two thieves on either side (Matt 27 and Luke 23)
COMPARE TO “LIFE OF JOSEPHUS, 76” BELOW
“And when I was sent by Titus Caesar with Cerealins, and a thousand horsemen, to a certain village called Thecoa, in order to know whether it were a place fit for a camp, as I came back, I saw many captives crucified, and remembered three of them as my former acquaintance. I was very sorry at this in my mind, and went with tears in my eyes to Titus, and told him of them; so he immediately commanded them to be taken down, and to have the greatest care taken of them, in order to their recovery; yet two of them died under the physician’s hands, while the third recovered.”
So you see here, during the Roman-Jewish War (66-73AD) Josephus wrote about three of his friends being crucified and asks Titus to spare them, he takes them all down, two die and one RECOVERS (sound familiar?). And remember, not one book in the NT was written until AFTER the Roman-Jewish War from 66-73AD.
*BTW, There’s also what’s known as “CENTO POETRY” where you would rearrange lines from the poetry of Greek Poet Homer (800 BC) and create a new piece of poetry. Christians all over were doing this with Homer’s works as well turning them into ‘gospels’ about Jesus. All of this research brought me back to the writings of Josephus especially and I noticed that there were quotes in his writings that were basically word for word verbatim of verses in the New Testament. These are only a few of the places where the Biblical authors were borrowing from. And keep in mind, the Romans were notorious for stealing other religions and implementing or incorporating them into their own. They stole the entire Greek Pantheon of Gods and Goddesses and gave them ROMAN NAMES (except for Janus, who they claimed was uniquely a Roman God). With that in mind, it wouldn’t be a stretch for them to steal the Jewish religion and create a Romanized version of it (i.e. Christianity).*
*HERE ARE EXTRAS FROM A CONVO I HAD WITH A “CHRISTIAN”*
The Bible contradicts itself in many areas especially the 4 Gospels and in KEY AREAS to boot!*
There were tons of ‘gospels’ floating around in the late 1st into early 2nd century (including the Gnostic Christian Gospels). It was until Nicea when the Roman Emperor Constantine favored Bishop Alexander over Arius (Arianism was then outlawed in favor of Homoousian Theology), and St. Jerome’s Latin Vulgate was the ‘official canon’, which had 76 books. The Catholics then reduced it to 73 books and then the Protestants reduced it to 66 books. But both the Catholic and Protestant Bibles are founded in St. Jerome’s Vulgate, just with fewer books. But even in these books alone, we find tons of contradictions including the key areas of Christ’s birth narrative and in Christ’s resurrection narratives.
CONTRADICTIONS ABOUT THE BIRTH OF JESUS IN THE GOSPELS
In Luke chapter 1, it says that a Census went out into all the world under Caesar Augustus, and was taken by the Roman Governor of Syria named Quirinius. This Census took place in 6AD. That seems to be a precise date, but in Luke 2, it says that Jesus was born during the reign of King Herod The Great (King of Judea), who died in 4 BC. This means the gospel writer of Luke is not consistent with the actual historical evidence! Luke 2:1-7 is not realistic. Also, the Census would not cause anyone to move from one place to another, in order to be registered for tax purposes. It would be the tax officials who would travel, to link property to it’s owners. So Joseph (and Mary) as residents of Nazareth, (Galilee) rather than Bethlehem (Judea), wouldn’t have been affected by this census in the first place!
Another contradiction is between Matthew and Luke. Matthew said that Mary and Joseph lived in Bethlehem, fled to Egypt, then returned to Bethlehem and finally, fled to Galilee. According to Luke on the other hand, said that they lived in Galilee, went to Bethlehem only because of the Census, and returned immediately to Nazareth to be presented at the temple a month later (40 days later to be exact) for the Jewish ceremony of purification, which they all did for the redemption of the firstborn son (Leviticus 12 ; Exodus 13). Here they meet Simeon (a just man) and the prophetess Anna. Luke makes no mention of a flight to Egypt, nor was there even a need to flee in his account. The only thing Luke and Matthew agree on is that he was born in Bethlehem to fulfill the prophecy found in Micah 5:2.
RESURRECTION CONTRADICTIONS BELOW
- Matthew’s account of Resurrection = 3 at the tomb (Mary Magdalene, other Mary and angel sitting atop the rolled away stone)
- Mark’s account of Resurrection = 4 at the tomb (Mary Magdalene, Mary mother of Jesus, Salome and a young man wearing white sitting inside tomb)
- Luke’s account of Resurrection = 5 at the tomb (Mary Magdalene, Joanna, Mary mother of James and 2 men in shining white apparel. The only disciple to return to tomb was Peter).
- John’s account of Resurrection = 1 at the tomb (Mary Magdalene, who sees nothing but an empty tomb. She then brings Peter and John back, where they see two angels shining brightly, one at the head of where Jesus had lain and one at his feet where Jesus had lain).
In essence, they worship that book, even though it’s been heavily redacted thousands of times, with errors, contradictions, anachronisms, discrepancies, insertions, omissions, etc.. This proves that there is no real inner working or relationship of (or to) a spiritual deity. It’s all dependent upon what ‘MEN’ have put inside of their book. The supposed ‘spirit’ (and their ‘PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP’ with that spirit), is not leading these people to discern FACT FROM FICTION. If it’s a real relationship with a true spiritual entity, then that spiritual entity should be telling these people when they are seeing error, especially when it’s in their own book. But that’s just not the case many times, proving there is no real spiritual component to their relationship with a real entity, it’s merely a relationship with a book (and a book that most Christians don’t even understand!).
it was another 40+ years after the Council of Nicea (325AD), before they started working on the canon. The earliest extant list of the books of the NT, in exactly the number and order in which we presently have them, is written by St. Athanasius, Bishop of Alexandria, in his Festal letter #39 of 367AD
382AD = Council of Rome at which Pope Damasus started the process of defining a universal canon for the Church. The New Testament books are listed in their present number and order. Pope Damasus commissions St. Jerome to translate the canon into Latin which became the Latin Vulgate
393AD = The Council of Hippo, which began “arguing it out.” Canon proposed by St. Athanasius.
397AD = The Council of Carthage, which refined the canon for the Western Church, sending it back to Pope Innocent for ratification. In the East, the canonical process was hampered by a number of schisms (esp. within the Church of Antioch).
1545AD = Council of Trent, Accepting the canon currently used by the Catholic Church was made mandatory at this council. Prior to that it was up to the individual whether you accepted the Deuterocanonicals (seven books : Baruch, Judith, 1 and 2 Maccabees, Sirach, Tobit and Wisdom ; also certain additions to Esther and Daniel), as part of the Bible or not. Even at Trent there was a lot of disagreement. (end)
So the fact that there has never been any consensus or consistency as to what books are ‘divinely inspired’, is a HUGE RED FLAG that none of this was handed down by a Supernatural Being.
You’re right about the earliest fragment of the New Testament* You’re right that all authors of the gospels (and Acts) are anonymous (with given names by later Christian authors). And there is nothing in the entire Bible that is extant, meaning everything is a copy. THE ENTIRE BIBLE, NOT ONE ORIGINAL COPY. But the earliest fragment we have is from the 2nd century. It’s from the book of John and it’s the “Rylands Library Papyrus P52”. But really, you can play on THEIR FIELD, THEIR RULES, THEIR REFS AND THEIR MOVING GOAL-POSTS and still whip their Azz. Use their own book against them. Their Master said that they would not only do what he did but even GREATER things shall they do (John 14:12-14). Extraordinary Claims require Extraordinary Evidence. Jesus also sent them out with the Great Commission in Mark 16 and in the latter half of that chapter it says that the disciples were not only preaching the ‘word’ but they had SIGNS AND MIRACLES to confirm what they were preaching about. Jesus says in Matthew 17:20 that the faith of a mustard seed (implying the smallest amount of faith) can move mountains.
In Acts chapter 5, the Apostles were out doing so many miracles in the STREETS (not behind closed doors where it was FAKE) that people caught wind of it and people from OTHER CITIES / TOWNS were bringing their sick, maimed, injured, etc.. into the streets of Jerusalem to be healed by the apostles as well (again, not behind close doors where they can FAKE IT like Benny Hinn). Where do you see this type of faith in today’s Christian circles? Where are they clearing out hospitals like the Apostles did in Acts 5? According to their own book, and their own standards, do these Christians even have faith themselves? They want us to believe in something that they themselves don’t believe in! Their ACTIONS BETRAY THEIR SPEECH!
And here’s the one that seals the deal. In John chapter 17, Jesus prays an epic prayer that not only would his 12 be one as he and his father were one, but that all those who believe on their message, that they too would become one as they are all one. Jesus’s own prayer was not answered!! From the beginning of Christendom, there has never been a time when all the believers in Christ were ‘ONE’. There have always been many factions and divisions and denominations. If this god didn’t even answer the prayer of his only begotten son, why pray to him at all?! He’s clearly not going to hear it or answer it.
And Jesus also said that where two or three are gathered in his name, he is there in the midst of them and if any 2 people should agree as in touching one thing on earth (in his name), it shall be done (Matthew 18:19-20). This is proven FALSE every single day when whole groups of people pray together and it is not answered. They have blind faith in a sky-daddy / sky-wizard that does not come through on his promises. Sounds a bit like the political world where people worship these BIG DADDY Politicians who sell them lies, and give them slogans that they will never follow through on or fulfill, but the people still worship these politicians no matter how much they deceive their constituents.
*NO CONTEMPORARY WRITERS WROTE ABOUT JESUS OR DISCIPLES*
You’ll clearly hear this from Bart Ehrmann and he is correct. And there were several authors in the first century who would’ve surely noticed Jesus and wrote about him. Many NT texts even state that Jesus’ fame went far and wide. And who wouldn’t notice all the miracles that he (and his disciples / apostles) were doing?! John 20:30 and John 21:25 << in these two passages it basically says that Jesus did so many miracles that if you were to write them all down, the world couldn’t contain all the books written about them. How would no other contemporary author write about any of this?!
THE SILENCE THAT SCREAMS! The only citation we supposedly have of Jesus in the first century was from Josephus (37-100AD ; Jewish General / Leader who defected from Israel to Rome during the Roman-Jewish War 66-73AD and became the personal historian of the Flavian Caesars). It was known as the “Testimonium Flavianum”. But this was clearly a fabrication by a later Christian author (most likely Eusebius, the Christian historian for Emperor Constantine), because none of the Christian Fathers from the 1st to 3rd Centuries cited it (and some of them pored over the writings of Josephus, yet never once mention the Testimonium Flavianum), it wasn’t ‘discovered’ until Eusebius in the 4th Century.
And BTW, there were tons of other forgeries being written around this same time period as well, such as the Epistle of Seneca [the Younger]. Seneca The Younger lived during the first century and was the tutor for Nero Caesar. Some Christian author in the 4th century fabricated 14 letters being written back and forth between Seneca and the Apostle Paul, yet nowhere else do you find that Paul or Seneca knew each other. And many statements made by Christians such as Tertullian, made it clear that Seneca had never been introduced to the gospel of Christ and that had he known about the gospel message, he surely would’ve been a Christian.
You’ll also find that they also slip in the ‘Christians being tortured, lit as candles in Caesar’s gardens, thrown to lions, etc..’ into the letter, and the only other place you’ll find this (which is highly suspicious) are in the writings of Roman Historian Tacitus from the 2nd Century. No other Historian wrote about Nero throwing Christians to lions, being burnt as candles in his gardens, tortured, etc.. and surely, Josephus and another Roman Historian named Suetonius would’ve said that Nero blamed Christians for the fire at Rome (and subsequently chastised by Nero for this), but they never do. They place the blame squarely on Nero. So this portion of the historical narrative about Christians being targeted and tortured by Nero as punishment for the fire at Rome, also seems to be a later Christian interpolation into the historical annals.
The book of Acts was written in the 2nd Century (see link)
*The Pauline Epistles never came to society until Marcion revealed them in the 2nd Century (see link)*
*More on Marcion in the three links below*
LINK 1 :
LINK 2 :
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P.S. Also look into these :
- Richard Carrier
- Bob Price
- Ken Humphreys (Jesusneverexisted . com)
- Dennis MacDonald (I highly recommend a vid series based on his books entitled, “EXCAVATING THE EMPTY TOMB” by TruthSurge on YT)
- Joseph Atwill (Caesar’s Messiah)
- Francesco Carotta (Jesus was Caesar)
- Dorothy Milne Murdock (better known by her pen names Acharya S and D. M. Murdock)
GNOSTIC CHRISTIAN BELIEFS
The Gnostics and the Gnostic Christians (who were actually the original Christians) believed that this 3D realm was created by an evil deity known as the Demiurge (Yaldabaoth ; Samael ; Saklas). The first Christian Bible was compiled by Marcion (around c. 140AD) and his Bible only consisted of 2/3rds the book of Luke and Ten Pauline Epistles (there was no OT and no other NT books). Marcion was a Docetist / Marcionist Gnostic who believed the god of the Old Testament was this Demiurge figure. He (and many early Christians like him) believed that the serpent in the garden was actually CHRIST who was trying to free mankind from being ignorant, and free them from control of the Demiurge deity in the Old Testament.
And the way to ‘salvation’ was not through believing in Jesus dying on the cross, but rather, it was through ‘gnosis’ or a knowledge of who you are (remembering that you are a fragment of Goddess Sophia). Sophia was the mother of the Demiurge who ’emanated’ or procreated on her own, without her male counterpart (who was the Logos or the Christ). That’s why the Demiurge was so messed up. She tried to reprimand him for believing that he was the only god and the god above all other gods. So the Demiurge locked her up and took his mothers divinity. He then created human beings and put fragments of her divinity within each human being (in a rib-CAGE << caging his mother metaphor).
They believed that procreation was evil, since you were just bounding Sophia’s consciousness (divine soul) up inside another human and their only was out was to remember who they were, as a small piece of Sophia’s Divinity. Once you had this ‘gnosis’ or knowledge of who you were (which is what the Logos or Christ was sent to remind us of), then you can ascend back to the Pleroma (gnostic term for ‘Heaven’). The point here is that many early spiritualists and even Christians believed that the god of this world (the one who created it) was an evil force.
*THE MIRACLES OF JESUS, SOME WERE COPIED FROM MYTHS AND SOME FROM HISTORICAL CLAIMS SURROUNDING EMPERORS*
In Suetonius’s “Lives of the Twelve Caesars” he writes about a couple miracles supposedly done by Emperor Vespasian when he was in Egypt. Vespasian goes to the Temple of Serapis where he is met by two men, one was lame and the other blind. These two men were told in a dream that Vespasian would be there to heal them and he does so. The way he healed the blind man is by spitting on his hands and rubbing it in his eyes and for the lame man, he touches his heel. The healing of the blind man is the exact miracle we find about Jesus in Mark 8 and John 9.
The first supposed miracle of Jesus was him turning water into wine. This was clearly an occultic ‘hint’ at the god Dionysus from Greek Mythology who was the god of wine. And if you read the stories of Dionysus (particularly in the story written by Greek Poet Euripides called “The Bacchae” which won the Dionysus Festival in 405BC) you’ll find that there are many narratives surrounding Dionysus that not only fit Jesus, but also fit Paul. Dionysus comes to Thebes and his cousin King Pentheus is in charge. Pentheus puts Dionysus in prison for trying to proselytize himself onto the people there. The way the people were given to the spirit of Dionysus was to get drunk on wine (this is very similar to Christians being in the holy ghost or holy spirit, and they speak in other tongues or dance around in a frenzy). Pentheus does not know that he has arrested Dionysus, he just thinks this is a mere follower of Dionysus, and before he’s put in jail, Dionysus (in disguise) says that AS MUCH AS YOU ARE DOING THIS TO ME, YOU ARE ALSO DOING THIS TO DIONYSUS HIMSELF.
This plays into two Christian motifs, Jesus said that he is the vine and his disciples are the branches (implying they are one through him), which is also another referential ‘hint’ at where this notion is coming from, since Dionysus was the god of the ‘vine’ and ‘wine’ (John 15). Another is in Matthew 25, where Jesus judges two sets of people. One set helped Jesus when he was poor, hungry, thirsty, in jail, etc.. and the other did not. They ask Jesus when they saw him and did (or did not) do those things for him. Jesus says that AS MUCH AS YE HAVE DONE THIS TO THE LEAST OF THESE MY BRETHREN, YE HAVE DONE IT UNTO ME. This notion of being ONE with his disciples, was copied or plagiarized from the poetic myths of Dionysus who made himself ONE with his disciples.
Dionysus causes a huge earthquake to happen which allows himself to go free from the prison cell. This is clearly where the Biblical author for Acts was drawing from in Acts chapter 16 when Paul and Silas were thrown in prison and a huge earthquake happens that releases them and all the other prisoners.
Also, Dionysus was known as the TWICE BORN (Born Again Motif). In Orphic Mystery tradition (6th Century BC), Dionysus (Zagreus) was born firstly by the god Zeus and virgin goddess Persephone (Queen of the Underworld). Zeus gives Dionysus the right to become his successor (as the 5th ruler on the throne in heaven over the entire universe). The jealous Hera (wife of Zeus) has the Titans rip the boy in shreds and eat him, but the heart is saved by goddess Athena.
Dionysus tried to elude their attacks by transforming into Zeus, Chronos, a young man, a lion, a horse, a serpent and finally a bull, the form in which he was torn apart. Zeus then hurls a lightning bolt at the Titans, and destroys them. Out of the ashes, humans are created with dual nature (one part from wicked sons of the earth – the Titans and the other part, a soul that is divine through the Titans’ eating the son of a god – Dionysus). Thus, when we find that followers of Dionysus follow the cult ritual of dividing up a bull and eating its raw flesh, and drinking wine in thanksgiving and remembrance of their god, it is not a stretch to argue that they believed they were eating the body and blood of their savior in order to reach a spiritual communion.
Dionysus was then born again from a mortal woman, Princess Semele, Daughter of the King of Thebes (Cadmus) and Zeus. Hera planted seeds of doubt in Semele’s mind that she had actually been impregnated by Zeus, so Semele demanded that Zeus make an oath on the River Styx that he reveal himself in all his glory. However, as no mortal can stand the sight of Zeus without dying, she was burnt up by his firebolts. Zeus rescued the child Dionysus from her womb and sewed him up in his thigh until he was ready to be born. Through this, he is called ‘THE TWICE-BORN’, being killed once, resurrected and born a second time, which spilled over to identify the initiates into the Dionysian cult, as they were said to be ‘BORN AGAIN.’
The Christians (as many of the ANE [Ancient Near East] religions, were notorious for copying each other) used the story of Dionysus as the blueprint for Jesus in many ways. Read “The Bacchae” by Euripides’ (Greek Poet from 5th Century BC) which is all about the demigod Dionysus, written in 410 BC and won first prize at the Dionysia Festival in 405 BC. The trial Dionysus has before King Pentheus is very reminiscent of the trial Jesus supposedly had before Pilate. The earthquake scene that allows Dionysus to walk free from prison, is very reminiscent of what happened when Paul and Silas were praying in the jail cell at midnight in the book of Acts chapter 16.
Dionysus was called THE TWICE-BORN, because according to the Orphic tradition (Orpheus was a Greek Poet, who supposedly existed before the 6th Century BC, and Orphism is traced back to the 5th Century BC) he was first born from Virgin Goddess Persephone (having sex with Zeus), then was killed by the Titans, the heart was saved by Zeus and then put into a mortal female’s womb (Princess Semele’ of Thebes). While he was still in Princess Semele’s womb, she was struck with lightning by beholding Zeus in all of his glory (no one could look at Zeus and survive). Then Zeus sewed Dionysus up in his thigh, until he was ready to be born, hence the moniker ‘TWICE-BORN’ (Two mothers – One mother a VIRGIN the other mother a MORTAL. He was born once, died, resurrected and born again, which is very similar to Jesus proclaiming that one must be BORN AGAIN or BORN A SECOND TIME).
The basic plot-line of the story goes like this, Zeus impregnates the VIRGIN GODDESS Persephone. Dionysus is born but Hera (jealous wife of Zeus) gets revenge by sending the Titans to devour Dionysus. The Goddess Athena saves Dionysus’ heart, and Zeus strikes the Titans with a lightning-bolt, which, out of the ashes, creates humans (part divine with a soul through the ashes of Dionysus – who was a SON OF GOD and the other part – part carnal flesh – through the ashes of the Titans). He was then crowned by Zeus with a crown of snakes (similar to crown of thorns). The whole plot-line of the Dionysus story is that after traveling the world teaching people his Dionysian mysteries and teaching people how to grow vineyards and make wine, he is now back in Thebes to enact (exact) vengeance upon his extended family for spreading the rumor that his mother lied about being impregnated by Zeus and mostly for not believing that he (Dionysus) was indeed, THE SON OF GOD (Son of Zeus).
“Young man, two are the forces most precious to mankind. The first is Demeter, the Goddess. She is the Earth — or any name you wish to call her — and she sustains humanity with solid food. Next came Dionysus, the son of the virgin, bringing the counterpart to bread: wine and the blessings of life’s flowing juices. His blood, the blood of the grape, lightens the burden of our mortal misery. Though himself a God, it is his blood we pour out to offer thanks to the Gods. And through him, we are blessed.”
― Quote by Euripides, The Bacchae Dionysus with satyrs. Interior of a cup painted by the Brygos Painter, Cabinet des Médailles.
BTW, I forgot to mention that you should also look into the god “Serapis” who was a main blue-print for the composite character “Jesus” in the gospels. Also ties in to Vespasian doing MIRACLES in the temple of Serapis during his campaign in Egypt. Serapis himself was also a composite deity and each part of him, is very similar to the pieces that make up Jesus. After Alexander the Great died, the Greek Empire was split into 4 parts. Ptolemy I Soter was in charge of the region encompassing Egypt (especially Alexandria). He now had Greeks and Egyptians under his auspices. He created Serapis as a way to unify the Greeks and Egyptians under one god and one set of laws. This is similar to the Biblical reference of how Jesus became the god of the Jews and Gentiles (you’ll see this concept all throughout the book of Ephesians). Serapis was a syncretic composite god character of Greek gods and Egyptian gods. See below :
- Osiris (God of resurrection ; God of the dead ; Judge in the Afterlife ; Jesus is the ‘resurrection’ and the judge of the dead)
- Apis (Sacrificial Bull Deity just like Jesus was the sacrificial Lamb; this was the divine bull of the Egyptian capital Memphis, a manifestation of the god Ptah. Statuette of an Apis bull. Already in the most ancient times, the Egyptians venerated bulls, animals that represented fertility. “Strong bull” was a common title for creator gods and kings.)
- Zeus (Father god above all gods ; Jesus said he and his father are ONE)
- Helios (the Sun God ; Jesus was the Sun of God)
- Asclepius (he was the god of healing and medicine ; this is where the miracle healings aspect comes from)
- Dionysus (God of the Vine and Wine ; Jesus was the vine and turned water into wine as his first miracle).
- Hades (God of the Underworld)
So you see here, all these composite characters not only comprise the characteristics of Serapis but also of Jesus. Ptolemy I Soter lived in the 4th Century BC. He took it further and declared that he himself was this Serapis god IN THE FLESH (via being the Pharaoh), and gave himself the title “Soter” which in Greek meant “Savior.” (Any of this sound familiar?) The goal? Ptolemy wanted to unify the Greeks and Egyptians under one god (himself via Serapis) and under one set of laws through this ‘made-up / fake’ god called Serapis. Just like he used Serapis to unify the Greeks and Egyptians, this is the very same blueprint that the Romans used in creating Jesus Christ to unify the Jews and Gentiles under one god and one set of laws. Catch it yet?
The Romans and Greeks adorned and worshiped ‘phallus deities’ as well
The pen!s represented fertility and was a sign of good luck. The longest running superstition is that of the EVIL EYE, where if someone is looking at you with contempt or even envy, it can have power to disrupt your life, so the way to combat this was to use an evil eye emblem or relic around your neck (Khamsa / Hamsa and the other was a Nazar). The other ways to ward of this ‘evil’ was to wear a flying pen!s amulet which represented the god known as Fascinus or Fascinum. They specifically put flying pen!s amulets around the necks of babies and children who they believed were the most susceptible to the EVIL EYE.
Other phallic gods were also used to ward off evil such as Priapus (they put statues of Priapus in gardens as a way to garner a lucky harvest). The Romans would actually wheel a large Fascinus Pen!s around the countryside during harvest time to bring an abundant harvest season to their fields. Another the Tinntinabulum, which was a wind chime or assemblage of bells. A tintinnabulum often took the form of a bronze ithyphallic figure or of a fascinum, a magico-religious phallus thought to ward off the evil eye and bring good fortune and prosperity.
There was another which was a Phallic Marriage Deity known as Mutunus Tutunus. They had a statue of him during weddings and the new bride would straddle him and ride him as a way to prepare herself for intercourse with her husband. But the point here is that they were using these charms, medallions, relics, etc.. (in the shape of pen!s deities) to ward off ‘evil’ similar to the way Christians use the Cross (looks like a pen!s and two balls) to ward off ‘evil’
HISTORY / HISTORICAL NARRATIVES – PAUSANIAS FINDS AJAX SKELETON / KNEECAP
Pausanias claimed to find the kneecap of the Giant Ajax who was a Greek Hero in the Mythical Trojan War Pausanias (Greek Traveler and Historian ; 2nd Century AD) believed the Greek mythologies were legit, including creatures such as griffins, giants and satyrs, but he made practical interpretations of organic remains, arguing that the skeletons of supposed giants he encountered had belonged to mortals, not deities. Pausanias once interviewed a man who lived along the banks of the Hellespont, in what is now Dardanelles, Turkey, and who had seen what he believed to be the giant skeleton of the Greek champion Ajax. Pausanias recounted the man’s description of the hero’s kneecap as “exactly the size of a discus for the boy’s pentathlon.” Considering discuses thrown by adult athletes range from 6.5 to 9 inches, this would put the size of Ajax’s kneecap at 5 to 6 inches across. Two things about this description are important. One is that it’s about the same size as the patella of a Miocene mastodon or rhinoceros. The other is that it’s not exactly the estimate you would make for a hero’s kneecap if you were trying to impress with hyperbole.
*CHRISTIAN SAID I WALKED AWAY FROM CHRIST BECAUSE I NEVER HAD ANY FAITH – THESE CHRISTIANS ARE TRYING TO GET OTHERS TO BELIEVE IN SOMETHING THAT THEY THEMSELVES DON’T EVEN BELIEVE = THEIR ACTIONS BETRAY THEIR SPEECH*
I never had ‘faith’ you say?! Think hard about yourself and all your Christian buddies and pals. Who of you has literally left everything (house, job, family, etc.) to live with a pastor and then literally preach and teach homeless on the streets? Which of you or your Christian buddies have even attempted to go do what your Master taught by trying to raise the dead, heal the sick, make the blind see, make the lame walk, etc.?
I’ve done all these things ( in accordance with Matthew 6:19-34 and Luke 12:22-34 as well as Matthew 19:16-30 ; Mark 10:17-31 and Luke 18:18-30 ) just as Jesus told the rich young ruler that if he gave up all his wealth, gave to the poor and followed him, he would be made ‘perfect’. I took that Christian thing to the limit, no one could do anything but MATCH. So if I had NO FAITH, then what does that say about YOURS? Because I know you dammn sure haven’t gone as far as I did.
You Christians are trying to get others to believe in something that you yourselves don’t even believe in!!!!!
Faith without works is DEAD (that’s what your book says). Your master said that you would do what he did and even GREATER THINGS shall ye do (John 14:12-14). In Mark 16 your master sent them out to preach the word and then it says that there were signs and miracles to CONFIRM the words they were preaching. Your master said the faith of a Mustard Seed (smallest amount of faith) could move mountains. According to that standard, do you Christians have ANY FAITH AT ALL?!
In Acts chapter 5, the apostles were doing so many miracles in the STREETS (not behind closed doors where it’s faked like Benny Hinn), that people from other towns were bringing their sick, maimed, injured, etc. into the STREETS to be healed too. Essentially, the Disciples in Acts 5 were CLEARING OUT HOSPITALS (not only in their own town but other towns as well). Why are you not out there doing these things like your Book and Master teaches?!
Your master would be right here asking you to get the beam out of your own eye before you reprimand anyone else (especially a dude like ME who has taken that Christian thing farther than you EVER WILL) about not having any faith. He’d ask you WHY DO YOU CALL ME LORD LORD AND NOT DO WHAT I SAID?! You have no faith!
You have no faith, you read words in a book that you yourselves don’t even understand. That’s why you’ve always had tons of denominations and you’ve always had division. You have a relationship with a book and it’s dependent upon your own flaky and flimsy interpretation of that book. There’s no real spiritual communication at all with any supernatural being. You can’t prove anything you preach or teach. Not even to YOURSELVES!
You can’t even heal your own self of the common cold, let alone go heal the sick and raise the dead like your master said you would be doing. Extraordinary claims require Extraordinary evidence. Christians have actually deceived their own selves into thinking that they really believe in that book, when all their ACTIONS prove otherwise. They have no more faith in that book than an atheist. Their ACTIONS prove it! So until you yourself have any faith in that book to go do even HALF of what I attempted, come holla at me.
*CHRISTIANS ARE NO BETTER THAN THE NWO TYRANTS – WE TRIED A CHRISTIAN WORLD ORDER FOR 1500+ YEARS*
Christians are part and parcel, in league with the N W O Tyrants. They don’t understand their own book, so they make these flimsy predictions about the ‘end times’ (when those clearly already took place as I’ve mentioned in a previous comment). So not only are they anticipating and expecting all these bad things to happen (based on faulty exegesis / interpretations of the eschatological portions of their Bibles), but they are actually HOPING it gets worse, thinking it will cause their sky-wizard to crack the clouds and come save them. And what’s crazy is, they have major cognitive dissonance, so on one hand, they say all this is supposed to happen and the Lord is allowing it to happen to fulfill prophecy and then they turn right around and say it’s evil and we must stop it !
They don’t know whether they’re coming or going! They are allowing all of this mischief and outright destruction to occur, thinking this is God at work. And look at all of the laws they’d wish to foist upon society. We already tried that CHRISTIAN WORLD ORDER for 1500+ years, with folk being tortured down in Castle Dungeons, drowning of witches (who were nothing more than Herbal Healers or Midwives), and burning people (and books) at the stake for petty crimes like Denying the Trinity. And you can be assured that if these Christians had the opportunity, they would do all these things again! They are Mini-Tyrants just like the N W O. They don’t truly believe in ‘freedom’. They want their draconian, ‘spiritually based’ Laws imposed on the world with an iron fist. They’ve already proven that! And their acquiescence to everything happening (as if it’s God’s doing) shows that they are just as much an enemy to the cause of freedom as anyone (or anything) else.